I guess the TC Shockwaves must have heard me poor mouthing their performance online. This is the quickest I have ever had a deer go down after being shot with a muzzle loader and the best blood trail I have ever seen with a muzzle loader. Not that it was needed she went about 15 yards. Sorry for the poor photo. This is the exit hole. Shot distance was about 60 yards. Used 2 50 grain pyrodex pellets behind a 250gr shockwave. Blood trail like a red carpet.