Get there when you can get there, you never know, you may be too late or you may be just in time. I few years ago, I went to my stand at about 4:15 had about 45 minutes of day light, got situated, rattled, grunted, I had a nine pointer run to me and I was done. 20 minutes on the stand. It was November 4th. Totally a rutting buck. This time of year you just never know.