Hk... I don't know what to say. That Winchester XX 2 3/4" 12 pellet 00 buck load you mentioned is one of the finest on the market, the most powerful 2 3/4" buck load... I am sorry but I have a hard time believing that of all things you shot a pit bull twice with that power load at that distance and it didn't die. What area of the pit did you hit? You know how they say shot placement is key, even a .300 mag wouldn't stop a pit if you didn't place the shot right. How spread out were the pellets, how the hell did the thing not die? I can't imagine it being a good shot, or hitting anything signifigent as a pit is a small animal and I use said 12 pellet load to do a number on large dear.

About the man I am also shocked that said buckshot load didn't kill him. Though I also must ask the same questions, where was shot placement, was the pattern spread out, what was the wound trauma like on the victum? Was the guy down and "out for the count"? Was he near death and only lived after being rushed to the hospital? Did the shot exit him or did it remain inside him, again much of the wound potential depends on how tight the shot pattern was. You would have thought one of those pellets would have struck something vital. I just can't believe that, I mean police agencies usually don't use such a powerful buckshot load. Who's idea was to use such a powerful one? Most use the 9 pellet standard loads of the 9 pellet reduced recoil loads. Funny thing is the recoil reduced loads have a better track record of one shot kills than any other type of buck, even the magnum ones. I wonder why that is. I speculate because the pellets at a lower velocity don't exit the body as fast and cause more shock trauma since they are in the body for alonger duration where as magnum shot will tend to just go right through a man not unlike a full metal jacketed bullet. So magnum buck would be best on bigger game than man where it can remain in the animal more and cause more shock trauma. Who can say, though I am still shocked out of my gord at what you hae said and don't even know if I can accept what you say... though I mean people have been shot and have lived from much more powerful rifles.

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