I use a 460 gr paper patched 500 S&W bullet I make my self. I have never seen what they look like after they hit an animal because they blow through. I have shot and seen many animals shot with these and in all I am saying close to 20 animals, mule deer, antelope and elk. Unlike a lot of ML bullets when these hit they go, WHOMPPP! Then the animal is down either in their tracks of within spitting distance. Ron