And Hal and Clark know me well ! matter of fact when I used to visit the NWTF and Old Gobbler forums we all talked about patterns and I don't remember you Brad at all. We could never talk a proper pattern because they were all for #7 pattern counts and I was still #6 and I chased there a$$ all the way with a larger shot. Clark knows his stuff but wants to sell his stuff just as bad. I'm not saying Clark Bush does not know anything but I bought one of his Chokes " Wright" and it never came close to what I was after. Now #7 are not good enough they want the pattern count for #9's now. I'm shooting #6 for Christ sakes get the number right. Yep the 60 yard is not the best and I agree but it kills and its not that I would shoot every time at that range, but don't give me your chest thumping Crap about the 50 yard " ITs a Damn 20 gauge" and one of the best patterns seen with a #6 shot !

Talk to them all Brad because they all know me well.