Your criteria for judging doesn't make all others wrong. Learn to objectively look at a situation. You should stay off a public forum for the simple reason of lacking an ability to understand any other logic than your own. You are so wound up in your stupid ways that you can not even look at another side. I completely understand what you are saying but what I am saying holds another view.

Think of it this way #7 hevi 13 lacks the necessary KE "roughly 2lbs" at say 60 yards so even if your 40 pellets hit the turkey they do little more than sting him where as #5 does have the energy to break its spine say 10 pellets hit it but all 10 have the KE to kill it. I'm not advocating shooting 65 yards but simply stating one has a higher likelyhood of killing a turkey with a larger pellet "assuming a high quality specialized choke". This is not hard logic to understand you may disagree with the principals because you are leaving some chance of not hitting the bird in the vitals due to pattern spreading out. I understand your point of view but it is incorrect in this situation. You resort to personal attatcks and stating "all of you are idiots" I'm not saying your 100% wrong If someone showed me the KE from Hevi 13 #7 shot and that it is still sufficient at these ranges I may change my mind.

You don't seem to understand any concept other than what you have already decided on. a full load of #5 shot is giving you a better chance at breaking a turkeys neck at say 65 yards than a full load of #7s thats all I'm saying. 100 #7s if they are all low on KE don't do you any good where as 25#5s may. If you disagree with that statement then we have come to an inpass and we can move on. Again I repeat over and over I'm not advocating 65-70 yard shots I'm simply stating if one where to take a long range shot the larger pellet gives a better chance at killing a turkey. On the contrary a shot at 50 and under the larger and smaller shot kill equally as well dead is dead whether you hit it w 50 pellets or 150 pellets. I'm not sure your intelligence level or ability to follow a concept but what I have stated makes reasonable sense. You lash out with childish remarks and accusation that add little to a discussion. Post a few 40 yard patterns and call it good. I'm not talking about 40 yards every modern load will work at 40 yards. If 40 yards is truly a limit then don't waste your time on expensive shells they all work!

I am talking about small diameter pellets such as #7 adding little value with my set up. At any reasonable distance #5s work equally as well again going back to the principal of dead is dead 50 pellets in the neck work as well as 150. But if I where to shoot farther I would rather have twice as many 5s then 4times as many 7s from the simple standpoint of all the 7s are almost useless beyond 55 or 60 yards where as most of the 5s although less in number can kill the turkey.

I'm not sure why you continue to attack me as stated with over 30 kills I have only ever pulled the trigger one time and not taken the bird home I'd struggle to believe the ethics police could say the same thing. further I gave a real life example of what I witness and you continue to attack regardless of if you don't believe I saw two birds taken at 65+ and both dropped like rocks doesnt mean its not true. If you choose to reply please save the personal attacks for someone else it degrades the post and the discussion I truly have enjoyed hearing others state their opinion and have really taken it with an open mind of maybe I'm going about this all wrong. I am simply trying to present a side of this argument you don't agree with and I however feel makes perfect sense. We have moved into the realm now of Hypothetical as you nor I have taken shots beyond 60 and only I have witnessed turkeys being take at those ranges.

Conclusions:
should we shoot 60+ yards? No, almost no load on the market works 100% of the time at those ranges

Do 5s and 7s kill equally as well under 60? out of my set up I feel yes you may disagree 30 pellets is as dead as 130 pellets

If someone where to shoot over 60 yards what load would have a higher likelyhood of killing the turkey? "the larger pellet in this case #5s"