Willieboy, thanks for the offer. Now I just have to work out how I' m going to tell the wife about my newest " interest" . I just bought a new rifle so talking her into a bow will be tricky. It will be a few years before my sons start hunting, they are only 3 and 1. But I can' t wait. I' ll let you know if I can clear up some time. I sure appreciate your offer, thanks again. I still need to get out to Bass Pro to check things out.