my little mossberg 100 atr eats these ballistic silvertips like candy. I have gotten 1in groups sitting down resting on my knees. Pretty stable shooting position down hill and laying down with my knees up (sit-up position) would work pretty well uphill. It (ballistic tip) destroys side beams on the tee-posts that i hang my targets on but the middle beam works enough to keep it as a target stand.