Originally Posted by
chaded
While I can see that in extreme conditions I just don't personally see the benefit in my experience with the two. So are you saying, that if the Harvester shot more accurate in a particular gun you would still use the MMP due to how pliable it is even if it generates worse accuracy?
Depends on how worse the accuracy issue was. I am not out to win a target contest - I am a hunter, what aids me while hunting is what i lean to. If I can constantly get 1 to 1 1/2" groups @ 100 off the bench that really works for me. If I switch to a harvester and get 1" to 3/4" groups who really cares unless we were shooting for money. Shoot if I were after total accuracy I would reduce the load to 72-80 grains of powder and shoot great groups - but what do groups put in the freezer? Plus my added belief in the abilty of the sabot to do the job i need done every shot. I have that feeling with a MMP or at least the MMP's that I use - I have never gotten that feeling about a Harvester other than a Harvester always looks better physically than an MMP after being shot.
I guess I haven't hunted in extreme enough conditions for it to really matter? I have always shot whatever yields better accuracy because most of the time with the tan mmp vs. the blue harvesters there was a considerable difference in the two whether the tan mmp shot better or the blue harvester shot better but regardless one was always much better than the other depending on which gun it was being shot out of.
I have always had better accuracy with the tan MMP than the harvesters... and that is not to say there is much difference in either one for me. But you also have to remember at my age my better shooting skills have long gone by...
This an example of one of my testing trips... These sabots were collected off the ground after shooting... couple of things I can tell you.... The tan mmp's came off the bullet faster and were not as far down range as the blue harvesters. The accuracy was very close to the same, with the MMP's being just a bit tighter, but for certain the Harvesters look better after being shot than do the Harvesters...
I was looking for the velocity chart that goes along with this shoot but I can not find it right now - but as I remember the average velocity of the shots by the mmp's was 50 fps faster... what does 50fps matter? I do not think it really matters at all in the over all scheme of things.
This target was shot with a Blue MMP with 230 grain - This is about as good as I am going to do...
I guess it is all about perception and my perception is the MMP's really work well for me and I lack that faith in Harvesters, which really doesn't matter in the big picture - people are going to use what they feel best about.