I just started practicing last summer and I got 6" groupings at 20yds. I am not a bowhunter by any means yet. I practice off of an 8' shed but I hunt out of a fifteen foot stand. Does it make much difference to you guys, if so should I practice out of the stands I hunt in the offseason. I got out in the woods last season But I missed an opportunity because of darkness. I ended up getting him first day of shotgun. I feal that getting a whitetail with a bow is the biggest challenge of all.