Sconny your comeing off very simple minded.are you saying every deer you have ever shot dropped on the spot?if so your a lier or else you havent shot very many animals.so let me get this straight,every moose elk deer bear etc etc is expected to drop on the spot?i guess we better stop concidering heart and lung shots as ecceptable.what about bow hunters?we best be starting to make arrow heads that explode.i think you keep mistakeing me for someone that cares what you think.let me clarify,i dont.