I love my Ithacas.. I live 20 miles from the original factory ... in Ithaca and have had the pleasure of going through both factorys here in ny . was a sad day when they closed.Nice to see they are being made in Ohio now.700 for a used one is pretty pricey .I think they were going for around 600 new around here.That said .... they are deer killing machines .... kick like a frigging mule... I would buy the savage .