Thanks for the advice guy's.

Where I hunt in Northern Virginia is a Military base so after Spring Gobbler season they shut down until September so it makes it difficult to scout, Also there are about 300-400 other guys that hunt this same area they have sections that you can hunt depending on what is open for the day's hunt.

I have been lucky the past 11 years I have hunted there I have shot 4 nice bucks that are on my wall at home. But becuase of the way the base works it's hard to hunt the same area becuase of Marine Training so by the time you think u got the deer figured out then end up closing the area and to be honest I have shot those 4 bucks on opening day og gun season everytime all 4 and I can't understand why I saw those bucks human pressure,time of the year it's always 3rd week in Nov,

I would like to find some consistency in my hunting approach and have it be succesful. Where I hunt it's still hot in October and the first week on Nov is the best time to see and hunt big bucks age 3+ year old class range other then that the bucks on base are noctural as soon as hunting season starts.

When I scout I find trails but I always seem to find sign that is probably night time feeding sign and not actual "during the day I can kill that buck sign" so it's very fustrating, its hard to find places to hunt on the base that other people havent hunting hard becuase it is public land and by gun season if you don't get your buck by the first two weeks the bucks go into hiding until the season is over and will not show themself during daylight hours.

How can you flip the table and find these nocturnal big bucks that haunt the public land becuase I know their there becuase every year a lucky hunter kills them it I find it facinating that 3-4 guys on base can no matter what the year brings bad weather hot temps hunting pressure they can still knock down the big boy come every fall