If you didn't notice, I'm also on that website and made comments to the OP and the outfitter in that thread. The guy made one statement in his rebuttal that was very suspicious that I caught him in. That was where he said NM didn't require him to have a license to do what he was doing. That may be true. However, he DOES have to be licensed by the USFWS or BLM if he is charging people to take them on Federal lands and then he can only allow them to go in a certain area under that license. That alone tells me to beware of anything else he says! The OP was certainly to blame for getting screwed because he didn't do anywhere near the homework he should have when each of them dropped $7K for that hunt. Nobody but one who has animals under a high fence should be advertising a guarantee on the animal itself. One thing alone to nail the guy on would be if the unit number for the tags was spelled out in the paperwork and he took them to another area under another unit tag. If it was spelled out in the paperwork and he took them to other than where they wanted to go or paid for they should have a case against him. If they have proper paperwork and the contract wasn't followed, they should win if it goes to Court. I find it hard to believe that the outfitter offered them thousands of dollars worth of discounts to go on another hunt because he felt sorry for them like he stated in the rebuttal. I really call BS on both sides of this matter because there is probably only some truth being told by both sides on the matter. I will not side with either party out on the net when this type of stuff is brought up and nobody else should either because we weren't involved and have no idea what the real situation was. That's exactly how people get sued for slander!