That's why I love this forum, There are so many people like me out there. The inside tenders are mine....I have said that for years, I feel I did the draggin' and thats the reward. Lately though since its just my Wife and I anymore we make a heck of a meal out of them. And Breechplug check this out since we are practically neighbors premier wines in buffalo sells Crown Royal Cask 16 for around 40 bucks this time of year. That's $170 bottle of whiskey for 40 bucks. After it's all done and I mean ALL done (guns cleaned and put away) there is nothing smoother to warm me old bones. Doug.