I'm not sure how anybody shoots T7 without getting a crud ring? You are correct. I get a crud ring also when I shoot Triple Seven for the most part. The only time I do not really is when I shoot my White rifles with conical bullets. I can shoot numerous times, without swabbing. Although, I have read a couple posts by forum members that report crud rings are not really a problem. Also I could shoot up to three shots even using Triple Seven. Although I would have to take into account the crud ring if it were there.

When I used T7, I had to swab every shot. I'm not sure where you got tap water in the field? In the field? I really worry very little about swabbing any rifle in the field. Normally I am there to shoot one game animal. And there for I am planning on one shot. If a second shot would be necessary, I could find enough spit and something to swab the bore with. Or I would hope this is a finishing off shot, and so I would load over the crud ring. If I were going to a hunt where there would be multiple shots, such as an all day prairie dog hunt.. I would carry patches and swab solution with me in my possible bag.

I just used spit. I'm also not sure where you get all the t-shirts either. I buy patches, and if you figure out how many i'd use in the life of a breech plug swabbing T7. It would more than pay for a new BP. The T shirts I use comes from home use. If one of my shirts gets too worn, torn, or small.. it goes to the patch bin. If I am in the big city, I once purchased two cotton sheets from one of those needy stores for .50 cents a sheet. Lots of patches that time.

I thought we were comparing BH to T7 for the average hunter? BH is no more expensive to shoot, and just plain works better. For the average hunter, BlackHorn 209 might be just fine, if they have the correct rifle that shoots it. In my case, I use multiple different rifles. Many of which can not shoot BlackHorn 209. So for me BlackHorn is a specialty powder. There for it is not cost effective. If I want cost effective, I shoot black powder. And I was just as interested in a target shooters observations with this question as I was the hunter. I meant no comment to be aimed specifically at you, as I respect the hunter's opinion just as much.

This does not apply to someone who lives on the range. I thought this was a hunting forum? My comments and advice are always pointed to the hunter. I was under the impression this was a muzzleloader shooters forum. Where all aspects of shooting a muzzleloader were discussed. That's why I will often post range results, bullet experiences, cleaning product reviews, powder questions, and breech plug discussions. And why I asked this question about Black Horn 209.

But I can understand if your comments are posted at the "hunter." If they owned a hunting rifle that shot BlackHorn 209, and shot only a few times a year, BlackHorn would be a very cost effective powder IMO.

Also, depending on the area of this country where you live, sometimes I am seeing that the cost of BlackHorn is very close to that of quality black powders or some of the substitutes. Here again, even if a target shooter, BlackHorn might be a very stable range powder also. But take for instance in my area. Gander Mountain wanted $34.00 for 10 ounces. Black powder, with shipping cost be $16.00 a pound. Much more cost effective for my needs. I will enjoy shooting the several pounds of Black Horn powder I just ordered. But I doubt it will ever make me leave the powders I currently use.