I appreciate the information. I am also a muzzleloader so I fully understand how a few grains here or there can make a BIG difference. I have been hesitant about reloading because of all the other stuff I'm into. Archery, muzzleloading, Turkey and big Whitetails to name a few. Let alone Family and work. Also that's an excellent point as to the cost. Other than rimfire and black powder I may shoot 50 bucks a year worth of factory ammo. I am a perfectionist when it comes to my guns though. I think what I will do is buy some Hornady, Federal, and some other premium factory ammo and try it, then if its better get as much of the same lot as I can. If I'm not satisfied I have a couple of friends that may want to split the cost of some equipment. Again thanks for the replies. Doug.