I like the old army surplus patches, I bought several cases of the the last time I seen them at the army surplus place about 30 years a go. They are thicker than any of the for sale by a company patches I have seen. I think they are just right.
Also many thanks to the person who mentioned the new Elite Hoppes for Blackhorn it is just as good as he said. Sorry did not notice the name. First thing I tried that is better than Hoppes #9 mixed 50/50 with alcohol or Montana X Cowboy.