I agree totally about the stomper magnums schoolcraft. They have their place but way too many people have been led down the path to thinking they "need" one for deer hunting by TV shows and hunting magazines. The average shot distance on deer in my neck of the woods here in Alabama is probably less than 100 yards. There is absolutely no advantage to using a magnum on deer sized animals at such short ranges. But lord have mercy you should see some of the howitzers being dragged into the woods down here to shoot at these relatively small southern deer at point blank ranges. I've seen some of these guys here with such a wicked recoil induced flinch from their whiz bang super uber duper mag that they couldn't keep 3 shots on a sheet of loose leaf notebook paper at 100 yards. Most would have been waaaay better off with a 7mm-08 or a 270 but of course they wouldn't hear of shooting any gun less manly than their super duper (faster than your gun) hyper warp drive atomic pile driver. Why don't you realize that their uber mag only drops 2 inches at 400 yards? Of course they couldn't hit a dump truck at 400 yards with it but that's beside the point. It only drops 2 inches man!!!!!

I saw a guy dropping a deer off at a processor one night that he had shot with a 300 WSM quartering hard away from him at a distance of about 60 yards. (I know because I spoke with him) Bullet entered just in front of the right ham angling to-wards the left front shoulder. I watched them jerk the hide off that deer and there is no doubt in my mind that the entire front half of that deer had to be thrown away. At that range the hyper velocity impact had totally fragmented the bullet and that deer looked like a car had hit it. The tenderloins and "both" front shoulders were bloodshot as hell. Gut and bowel content were everywhere. What a waste.