one thing i think is people get too tide up with is wide deer. yes a wide deer looks awesome on the wall but width is only one measurement. a deer with tine length and mass will get you a higher score then one width measurement. he has the tine length he carries his mass all the way through. then with the kickers you got a 155 give or a take a few inches deer. oh and above about a net score nets are for fish not deer.