Well, I'm doing something wrong here. I missed again twice this evening. 20 and 30 yard shots. I just practiced earlier in the afternoon elevated at about 13' foot. The stand I'm hunting is 16.5 feet tall. Target practice was just fine, even cut an arrow fletching hitting so close. So tomorrow I'm taking the 3D target out to the stand and I'm gonna shoot from all different ranges to find out what my arrows are doing from that height. I can't figure out why I'm missing at these distances on a live target. Anyone know how well the G5 Montec's sharpen up after hitting dirt? LOL