Only those who own ASAT know what your talking about Belle, simply put, ASAT is the only camo that makes you invisible, as your finding out. Any nay sayers, just don' t get it. Like I mentioned before, I started wearing ASAT 15 plus years ago and then a couple seasons ago I ran into Chuck at a show. We had a booth, Chuck walks by wearing an ASAT jacket, his boy as well and I looks at him and says' " great camo, too bad I can' t find it anymore" ...and around the corner comes two more ASAT wearers....little did I know I made that statement to Chuck Pensyl, creative director for ASAT and with him he had the inventor Jim Barnhart and his brother Gary....we made small talk, " great guys" , set up a meeting and were prostaffed....there are some great products out there, bows, equipment, treestands etc.....and in each one of those cases I won' t say one is better than the other....but when it comes to camo......I know ASAT is far superior and I won' t be afraid to say it....ASAT is the best camo on the market today...period...most will work but you' ll never understand until you wear ASAT how truly amazing it is...in ALL SEASONS, ALL TERRAIN and why it is said, If your not wearing ASAT, your not wearing camo.