You guys probably remember me posting about getting a 270win in the last week or 2. Anyway, i decided to go with the axis, I did alot of research and i discovered that the axis has the same barrel and action as the savage 110 and that its only drawbacks are the heavy trigger and the stock, I personally handled one and i love the stock. But the trigger was heavy, but clean. So i found out that the trigger is EXTREMELY easy to lighten so I will just do that. But, I was wondering how bad the recoil is on a 270 win? When i was in oklahoma, i shot a remmy 710 in 270 and i dont particularly remember it hurting at all. But my uncle also had a 12ga pump action with a long barrel that kicked like crazy with some dirt cheap walmart bird shot, it had no pad and a hard square but, but that kinda has me paranoid about getting a punishing gun to shoot. I'm a 16 year old heavy set lacrosse player so im definitely tough and not some twig of a nerd. Should I even look into getting a slip over recoil pad for my new gun?