anyone that blindly says the 70 is a cheap pos is on crack. I've got four 70s...223, 243, 25-06 and 30-06. My latest groups was a 6 shot group out of my 25 at 100 yds that totalled .400". yep, inaccurate guns and made poorly, yep...go stand at 400 yds and tell me that. All my 70's are tack drivers even with factory ammo. ALL are post 64