I really do and did not want to get in this conversation because there will never be a winner.... the only thing that I would point out is the fact that I believe you to be wrong on this point. Not that it should have any bearing on what you choose to shoot.

If what you are indicating were truly true... then why in the world is every body else that hunts big game here and or anywhere else not shooting big conicals. Granted there are a handful of folks shooting lead and most of the organized traditionalists groups want to require a ML shooter to shoot pure lead while hunting becuase they also know that modern bullets would increase the success rate which would reduce the ML opportunities. Further if what you are indicating is true or even close to the facts don't you believe that there would be a major manufacturer producing lead conicals to meet the demand - there just isn't a demand. Agreed Hornady and other manufactures produce a given amount of conicals, but what percentage of sales do you think they might have vs. the more modern bullets. The demand is not there because hunters across the world believe that copper jacket lead, copper, and brass bullets have better terminal performance across the board.

I shoot .503-460 Bull Shops and they work well for me. I shoot them because I am required to by the State and the lobbiests that help make the rules. I would much prefer to shoot a bullet that I know has better terminal ballistics and I believe is more humane in most given instances.

Does that mean you have to believe what I believe... not even close... that is why I used the "I" in this statement. I is not you or Flounder or Chief or anyone else that prefers to hunt with a conical. It is your right to make that decision.

Now let's go have a