Grouse, i don't know what conicals you used on hogs. i can only assume your horrible luck with them was with a hollow point conical at close range.i have shot hogs here in cali with T/C maxi's with nothing but 100% total success and devastation.with a NE/BS i would expect even better performance on hogs, although dead is dead! as far as Lehighs are concerned, from the little i have seen they are no better than a Barnes expander MZ or TEZ in the terminal performance arena. both of these bullets are totally devastating on whatever animal one chooses to shoot with them. and i have never been able to find one sentence stating otherwise anywhere on the internet.i also feel for those longer shots the TEZ with it's poly tip and huge hollow point in .250 or .295 is a better choice than comparable weight lehighs due to better aerodynamics.i would shoot hogs all day any day with a .400 -.460 gr NE/BS or the mentioned Barnes bullets and with proper placed shots all would be stone dead, just as dead as being hit with a Lehigh.. Ray