XXX2 on that. i have shot deer elk and hogs with a .430 gr T/C maxi from my .54 renegade and can tell you the total devastation that bullet had on those animals was a sight to behold.i have not shot any animal with a NE or BS conical as of yet, but knowing the overall quality is better on these bullets, along with it's larger metplate and seeing results from people shooting these bullets from 25-225 yds. i have no doubt there a better bullet than the maxi.conicals can do whatever any whiz bang bullet is capable of doing and at longer ranges probably better..Ray