thanks for the suggestion but I tried that. It does the same for me. I have never run into this problem. I am truly stumped. I even moved her string loop down to give the arrow a slightly upward angle and it didnt work. Normally I would think it is the shooter but she is an EXTREMELY accurate shooter and at 10 yds she is grouping arrows that are touching each other. The groups are just low. They are like 10 inches low at 10 yds with the sight bottomed out.