Yea i was kind-of shocked when I started looking at ammo. Its not as readily available. Big marts don't carry. Found some online from $37 to $85. Bought some 165 gr. at the pawn shop I bought it at for $58 and some 180's online for $37 plus $12.50 s&H. Probably do most of my practicing with 165's or lower then fine tune with the 180's for elk hunting.