My son has a Ruger #1B in 25-06Rem. Brand new with factory ammo, he could keep it around 2 MOA out to 300yds. After break in and experimenting with handloads, he's got it down to 1-1/4 MOA at 300. No 'smith work yet. Trigger is heavy with excessive creep. It's a pretty heavy gun to carry. They're not for everybody. I think people who like #1's, like them for their own reasons.