I don't know, they don't look too bad. In reality its a perfect time to release these with the on going changes a TC. They did the right thing with the little horn in offering different color stocks. Appeals to boys and girls. I like the Bighorn out of all of them. Just cant see buying another 50 cal. Now if someone would offer a .45 or .54 inline or even a .30 call something. I would think about buying one. Always good of have more gun makers.