Forgot to mention SAbotloader.I am hoping the 300 gr DC's will be accurate out to 200 yds, if not Barnes bullets here i come lol.i really need a bullet out west here that is accurate at longer distances. the .250 gr DC has proved to be accurate. as is the .250 gr Barnes TEZ bullet.i am in the heavier bullet corner still when it comes to say 150- 200 yd shots..can always practice with the Dc's and hunt with the barnes bullets.