Originally Posted by lemoyne

This actually brings out a point that is being missed a good part of the time.
For one thing there are bullets designed for many different purposes, these XTP bullets were designed to be efficient handgun bullets shot at velocities of from 900 t0 1500 feet per second.
The bullets primary purpose as it was being used was to kill a deer and it did and the deer was recovered; whats bad about that?
My definition of a bad bullet is one that don't do the job, as an example before I new any better I shot a deer with a Power Belt 245 gr with a 120 gr load of pyrodex right on the front shoulder any decent bullet would have killed the deer. Instead it blew hair skin and meat all over the snow and we tracked that deer for several miles and watched him twice with binoculars standing and looking back at us, we could see the big hole in his shoulder and he was limping but he was headed for the next county and I doubt that he died from that bullet, that bullet failed.
Some of us complain when the lead comes out of the jacket or when the bullet does not exit and while this may not be failure it is some times expressed as such. That's why the make a lot of different bullets if you don't like the way it works the try a different bullet I won't say better because that's a matter of opinion. Some think the copper bullets are better some think the bonded bullets are better some think the brass bullets are better some think conicals are better but to me the only time a bullet fails is when it hits where it should kill the deer and it does not do the job.