The problem with self described environmentalists and their groups is that they are more concerned with propaganda and forwarding their socialist agendas. Never forget that hunters as conservationists are the first true environmentalist and without them you can forget the welfare of animals and the environment. Hunters have always put their money where their mouth is and it is success stories like the whitetail, the wild turkey, the African elephant etc. that prove that fact. The environmental wackos have done nothing to save any wildlife or wildlife habitat but just be a thorn in the side of those of us that truly try to make a difference.