Alright so finaly i got a nice 8 point this year, i took him with a mosin nagant that i got for christmas last year outfitted with an 8x pistol scope from about a 100 yards. it was clean kill in the heart and came out the neck, he didnt even twich..... so what do yall think? btw i do realise that it looks a bit small but trust me it was a good size buck they dont get too big out in east texas.