Originally Posted by
Colorado Cajun
I think you either have a piece of trash, or maybe some cleaning media stuck inside your die causing that or a bad die. I've had a piece of walnut media do the same once. Personally I wouldn't use those cases. Check the inside your die and let us know what you find.
Actually pulled it out and, using a maglite, inspected the inside of the FL die. Nothing visible. They are new out of the box, first time used.
Originally Posted by
7MMXBOLT
If that brass is a must have you could fire form them back with a min load but if you have more than enough brass I wouldn't waist the components. Furthermore, do check your shoulder bump back to make sure your not pushing them back too far. You only need a max of .001 set back for proper clearance. Another thing is make sure your not over lubing your cases as this will cause a build-up and create the same problem.
CC is right you will have to clean that die real good. It don't take a big piece of junk to make a dimple. I use "breaklean" to clean my dies.
I have some brakekleen so I'll use it. You are over my head... what do you mean by shoulder bump?
Originally Posted by
DDMPrecision
Hahahahaha!
I did the same thing myself the first time I ran rifle brass through the FL sizer!
Relax, take a deep breath, everything's just fine.
First, I doubt there's any junk up in your die.
Second, what type of lube are you using?
To me, that looks like an excessive lube dimple on the shoulder.
When I do a full length resize on brass, on the very first two pieces of brass I put through the die, I go a little heavy on the lube.
After that, it's very sparing. They don't need to be slathered in butter, just a nice light coat - enough to keep them from sticking up in that die.
I use the RCBS lube and pad, roll them around on the body only, then use my fingers to slime a little up onto the neck and shoulders. Works pretty well for me.
My suggestion is this - clean your die, check your vent hole in the side of the die, and carry on with the project.
You're doing fine...relax.
Have a great day!
Dave
Thanks for the vote of confidence! I'm calm now.
Using all Lee components, including lube.
Originally Posted by
bigcountry
Those my be hydrolic dimple marks due to too much lube. But it appears more than that. They can be fireformed, but it wouldn't be worth it to me. Just make sure its a dent and not a crease.
Definitely not a crease. Thanks.
Originally Posted by
Pawildman
Probably lube dents from excess case lube. As has been stated, lube body of case sparingly. I use a q-tip to lube the INSIDE of the neck only, and just lightly. you need to be sure you are lubing the inside of the necks! Keep lube off the shoulder of the cases, and outside of necks. I'm sure your troubles will disappear. Clean your sizer die out.
Yes, I'm lubing the inside also with a Q-Tip. I was also lubing the shoulder and neck, using my fingers. Sometimes it was pretty thick.
Originally Posted by
MasterBlaster
if you are loading for a bolt gun and the brass has only been shot out of your specific gun just neck size it. Way less work and way better for the life of the brass.
You mentioned a collet die so i am guessing you are using the Lee Collet neck sizer. You dont need any lube for that and they work very well in my experience. Just trim your brass every 2 loads and shoot away.
I wouldnt worry about any tiny dimples from excess lube but your pic looks like they are bigger than any I have ever done. I would think those dents will shoot out no problem though.
Some may disagree but I only actulally lube every other case when Im full sizing with my Lee dies. I use the Rcbs lube and that stuff is thick! There is going to be a little left in the die and expander ball after running it through. I've never had a stuck case even though I might be taking a chance. Ive actually tried lubing one then running 2 dry ones through. The 3rd one was pretty stiff so I would not recommend that.
Yep! Lee dies. Actually, I used the Collet die originally, as the brass has all been fired from my rifle only. I completed 6 rounds because I was excited and wanted to "do something". Only 2 of the rounds would chamber in my rifle afterward. Kinda surprised me... so maybe I did something wrong. Bought the FL kit to correct the problem.
Originally Posted by
7MMXBOLT
Good point!
I agree, never lubed the neck & shoulder in 30 years of reloading and don't plan to start now. That would only add to the problem. I don't even lube the inside of the neck. If you clean you brass real good particularly the inside of the case neck there is no need to lube. Your best bet is to FL size for the first firing and then use a neck sizer die until the brass starts to fit the chamber a little too snug, than FL size again. You'll get much longer life out of your brass that way.
That is as long as your not running your loads too hot in that 7mm!
I'll try the Collet die again the next time around. Maybe they will chamber then. Definitely NOT trying to get fancy with hot loads at this stage of the game! I just want fast, consistent loads I can depend on. I will probably never go to the length that many of you probably do! But my Old-Timer friend says I'll get hooked... we'll see!