Jay thats cool ur on here awesome,as i sit here reading your post the only thing comes to my mind is knowing you,that deer took that XTP.Hey I just started ML hunting but on my first experience,shot a really nice buck with the Hornady .430 240grain 44cal. XTP-HP bullet with supplied green sabot,and no blood trail at all.All i can say is NO MORE XTP 4 ME,if they work 4 others GREAT,but i cant risk it with the type of BOOK BUCKs we hunt.I am thinking in the last 5 years you took ? 4 BOOK BUCKs?