I shot 3 with a 30-30 many years ago and 2 dropped in their tracks while another ran 40 yards. I've since lost count of how many I shot with my .270, guessing somewhere around 40 or 50, and I can think of only 3 that ran 50 yards or less. All the rest dropped in their tracks except for the 2 that I missed. My muzzleloader on the other hand is a different story. Out of 8 I've taken, only 2 dropped in their tracks while the others fell anywhere from 20 to 100 yards.