Bow was definately in tune. I feel they are a little under spined due to the fact that most people have there bow around 63# and are shooting great. I may give them another try in the future but for now will be using my aluminums. I shoot well with them and my thunderheads shoot well too and that is most important. I will be out there on Wednesday so there is no time to be switching back to carbons now. Should be fun due to a cold front coming through and a chance of snow!!!!! Thanks for the suggestions and comments, this message board is a huge help to a lot of archers. Good luck to you all!!!