I second that. I've not paid over 350.00 for a rifle, and cannot see doing so. I've shot many many deer with my mossberg 06, which i got for 270.00 and my nef 12gauge shotgun, i got for 100.00. No need to spend an arm and a leg for a rifle. I bought my Mountaineer archery bow for 150.00 used. And spend about 100.00 for a wiskerbiscut and fiber optic sights. If the gun/bow shoots, and your hitting your mark, the deer will expire.