Carhartt's fabulous ! They take a bit to get used to, but when you do they are one of the most comfortable pants you can own! The only other pants that even come close to comparing for the abuse they can handle are the Wrangler jeans. Im not talking the red tag, walmart specials, I am talking the brown tag on the butt, cowboy jeans... You may need to hit a western wear store for them, but they wear longer than any other denim!!