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Old 10-31-2010, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mustad
I'm fine with most of what you are saying here, but isn't that hunting? You take the pup out in the woods. She works and searches; finds birds chases them. Great stuff. Guess what? She's going to want to go out again next week. Excellent. She goes out again and searches; finds birds and remembers "oh crap, I can't catch them, so I'll point." She points. You're 50 yards away. Her desire gets the better of her and she thinks, "Alright, I've got you now. Rushes in and the bird flies off and she chases." AWESOME. Isn't that part of hunting?

Next week comes. She's really pumped now. Ready to go out. She goes. Searchs, uses her nose; finds a bird. "ohhhhhhh crap!. I better not move. Let's see if boss might be able to help me out here." She slams on point and waits for you. You approach. Bird flushes. If you don't shoot that bird, you will regret it. This is the best lesson you'll be able to teach your pup.

The bottom line, don't get hung up on the whole don't hunt the first year thing. Get hung up on the reality that your pup will bust a lot of birds, but this is the absolute best learning experience you can give her.

That's how I do it at least. It's worked pretty well for me. Good luck.
Not sure they think that way...
50 yards out??? I don't train for field trials I use my to hunt over/with

The point was to let your dog enjoy himself/herself and I am certainly not "hung up" on not letting the dog hunt the first year..like I said "each dog is different"
Mine is 10 months old now and I can shoot over her , there is no fear of the gun.
IMO the best thing anyone can do is go to a sporting club and pay to have the birds placed. Ask them to mark those locations with marking tape so you can judge what the dogs reaction is as they pick up the scent and get real close. My dog came to a full point on her 6th bird...picture perfect! If you can shoot over your dog all the better...I can and use a 20 gauge. I missed that "first" bird she pointed and it was a easy shot! But she won't forget her job because I missed....you know why? She loves what she does an that IMO that is the foundation to a good bird dog.
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