I feel bad enough allready having missed a really nice deer at maybe 25 yards max. I was using my new Wolf that's zero'ed in at 100 yards. I should have been aiming a lot lower but I guess I got too excited. He was following the does and wasn't waiting arround for me to give the shot a whole lot of thought. If I had been using my old Hawkins he would have been in a world of trouble. I've had that thing for more than 20 years and it's like an extention of my right arm. Oh well, live and learn I guess.