you can call it juice if you want to but hawgs unlimited has some of the best on the market start with just pre - rut doe pee and get a scrape bottle u can get at wally world for 12 bucks and set it up and get a about a 1 1/2 ft circle going with the driper over the top of it and then move to estrous in the rut youll get good results thats what i did and i got a good bruser swelled up 15 yds from the stand [:-] didnt take but just one look for me to decide to take him another thinbg dont get your scent arond it or its ruined until it goes away start about oct 7 or 10 thats when i start but u might want to get stated on the 1st or so its just smaller bucks trying to scrape here.

Good Luck and Good Shootin,
Joe Smith