When do you start to rattle and grunt while sitting in stand. I have heard that you can grunt all year just using a contact grunt but when do you start to get aggresive with it. Do you start when the deer are breaking out of their bachelor groups since they are starting to establish a pecking order or do you wait until the rut actually starts. With rattling is it better to wait until the rut kicks off or will it work during the pre rut also. Any advice tips or suggestions are welcome and greatly appreciated