I have shot Black Cloud and Kents in 2's and 3's with great results with Briley IC and Mod. extended chokes in 3" for ducks. Geese if they are early in the season with 2's first shot and then BB's after that. Have shot the Winch. Supreme as well, liked it also. I have since tried to clear out what I have left on the shelves to make room for the 2 cases of Hevi-Metal I bought earlier this year when they came out at Dunns on sale. I really like it and it shots nearly as well as Hevi-Shot and I use a Briley ext. ported, IC early and Mod. later, with the 2's and 3's in 3" and 3-1/2 B's and BB's in IC.