uncle matt. im more lookin for a waterfowl gun. the one i do end up getttin ill probably buy with a 28" bbl on it so i can do duck and goose. which is also why im lookin at the supermags. VAhuntr, i will definatly check out Gunbroker appreciate the site. lol and at gander their new wingmasters were actually about 100 bucks cheaper than their used wingmasters, just FYI. as far as the bottom ejection like on the Browning i've never used a bottom eject so i really haven't the slightest clue as to if i will hate it or love it. But the Browning itself seems to be a very well made gun. once again Appreciate the help guys.