i am looking at POINTING LAB for future.dont know if thats right move yet as flushing dog does work better on runners.grouse today are running do to coyotes we have now.they used to sit and hide, not now they run then fly away.
almost all my shots on grouse after leaves drop are over 30 yds.

this is why even 20 ga is hard on grouse after leaves come off unless you have a long barrel with FULL CHOKE.i like 28 inch barrel on 20 ga and 12 ga too.those 24/26 inch barrels are quicker but they dont BALANCE as good as 28 inch does and better sight picture.


a light 20 ga is sweet when hunting.i almost got the 20 GA BERETTA URICKA FIELD in the 28 inch barrel. 1 nice gun, for sure.
but after looking at 12 ga beretta,it weighted 1 pd more,shells are more powerful,more bbs,and MUCH CHEAPER than 20 ga.
you can use LOW BRASS with 12 ga and have to use HIGH BRASS with 20 ga .

with 12 GA you can hunt everything up to goose.

if i was goig to buy 2 guns ,I WOULD BUY BOTH 20GA/12GA. but 1 gun to do it all, ONLY BERETTA URICKA FIELD 12 GA.........
right now i am putting plastic stock on my 12 ga uricka. this will make it as light or lighter than 20 ga and i dont have to worry about wood getting scratched by thorns etc hunting grouse.

so now i have 20 ga in a 12 ga that is as light BUT packs more shot for those long shots.