Thats on a good one. Sometimes its a little further. It just never fails...2 touch and 1 is usually up and to the right. And always to the right too. They load fairly easy and almost every sabot will lose all of its petals which isnt surprising at all. Ive only recovered 2 because they are so hard to see. The MMP Orange usually loses all or 3 or its petals too but shoot fine. I dont consider petal loss a failure, it seems some are designed to shed them.