well I just sent the thing back in to see if there is something wrong with it, let hope, but if not I guess its time to buy a different brand and probalby go back to flash, I didn't spend 240$ for mostly black and white pictures during the day ;-( we will see, all the customer service people it sounded like its working properly but everybody here said its not, so let see, LOL thanks for all the help you guys have been